An alternative to incineration

Date: Wednesday 8th November 2006
Time: 10am till Noon
Place: Great Bay Hotel
Subject: An alternative to incineration.

Dear all persons concerned with our environment and the ever growing mountain of trash on Pond Island. Please Click Here to Read More
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The St.Maarten Chamber of Commerce and the Sint Maarten PRIDE foundation will jointly be hosting Mr. Jacques Chouraki who is President of ECODEC. ECO-DEC is a recycling company based in Guadeloupe and is licensed to operate a solid waste sorting and plastic and tire recycling plant in Guadeloupe (F.W.I.)

ECODEC is currently recycling plastic waste from many Caribbean locations, including Guadeloupe, Martinique, Dominican Republic and Antigua. ECODEC is also recycling used tires from Guadeloupe, Martinique and Antigua.

St.Maarten PRIDE foundation has always been lobbying for an alternative solution to the landfill problem as the landfill capacity is almost coming to an end. Subsequently, the landfill is an eyesore, contributes to rodents and constant out of control fires that can rage on for weeks.

While there has been talk about an incenerator for Dutch St.Maarten to burn garbage, PRIDE foundation believes that a safe and responsible solution would be to reuse and recycle our waste.

St.Maarten PRIDE foundation and the St.Maarten Chamber of Commerce is hereby inviting you to a power point presenation by ECODEC.

Hoping to see you all there and having a fruitful discussion on this issue.

Jadira Veen
Sint Maarten PRIDE foundation
President

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Roy Marlin has 'brokered a deal' with the Aruban Government to provide a consultant for a Waste to Energy plant he is planning. As with the GEBE/Intaquin fiasco, Roy is making deals on issues that require intense and calcualted study without any public input or consultation. It is also important to be aware that the Marlin Family have recently entered into the garbage business with St Maarten Waste Management.

Do we know that a Waste to Energy plant is the best solution for the island? What are the options? Should they not also be combined with legistlation and educational programs? Is Roy making the best deal for the island? Why are local interest groups and experts being denied an input to the decision process?

There are many questions, It is clear that Roy Marlin has no vision for the future of the island, he has no vision of what happens after the govt's 10 year Road Map plan, which he uses to justify his rubber stamp permit policy. I appeal to all of you out there who have an interest and concern for the future of the island, all of you who have knowledge and ideas to share, to attend this presentation. You will find that you are not alone. - Flipper

News stories on this issue will be added below

EDODEC - Incinerator not good idea, recycling better - 9th November 2006

Recycling presentation today - 8th November 2006

SXM Pride and Chamber of Commerce host recycling lecture - 4th November 2006

Garbage tax proposal being drafted - 11th October 2006
Talking Garbage II
Talking garbage.

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Submitted by Flipper on Thu, 2006-11-02 12:01.

thanks for researching
jadira veen | Sat, 2006-11-18 06:34

Mr. Barnes, thanks for researching the various options and alternatives.
I am very pleased to see that you are looking with an unbiased approach and in a professional manner all in the interest of protecting the environment and the Great Salt Pond from more destruction.
I will be touching base with you soon.

The Queen asked questions about the landfill today
jadira veen | Fri, 2006-11-10 18:18

While I was driving today around noon listening to Island 92 with Willem Dekker, I heard Suzanne Koelega ( a reporter for the Daily Herald) giving a run down on what all had transpired during the morning with Her Majesty Queen Beatrix. Suzanne mentioned that one of the first questions that Her Majesty asked the EXCO is why the Dump-Landfill is still in the center of town after so many years. I thought to myself, There is a God!!! in this case, There is a Queen!!!!

I am very happy that her Majesty Queen Beatrix brought forward this issue to the EXCO, as it is obvious that even a Queen has to pass and see this mountainous man made monument filled with waste on her way to meet our local government. We are way behind where this issue is concerned, our landfill or dump depot is located in the center of Philipsburg and growing into the skies everyday.

Yet, our government is playing politics instead of trying to find a viable, safe and responsibly safe solution to this problem. Not to mention an environmental solution as well. The public and environmentally aware persons had a chance to listen to how recycling is being handled on other Caribbean islands. Not one elected official showed up for the presentation. Mr. Gert-Jan Stortelers, who is the representative of the Netherlands on St. Maarten did come out to listen.

We are not talking about an eyesore anymore, as the current landfill has become a health issue as some persons pointed out during the ECODEC presentation. They were referring to the infestation of midges that the island has experienced sometime this year and last year. The dump depot is not a bottom sealed landfill, and everything from large appliances to paint, sometimes sewage to regular household garbage and even gas cylinders is being buried.

Of course the waste that breaks down into liquid and other toxic waste is leaked into the Great Salt Pond, resulting in the pond not being salty anymore and with stagnant water , these small mosquito-like insects will breed. The time has come for our government to take a closer look at ECODEC recycling methods and make a wise decision as other islands have done.

An incerator will not solve our islands waste problem as we will have to import garbage to keep an incerator burning day and night. To top it off, the left over ash which consists of Dioxin is toxic and has to be handled carefully, packed in a sealed container and shipped off somewhere...... ?????

As Mr. Chouraki said, most of St.Maarten's household waste can be turned into composte. Composte can be made into good quality landscaping and agriculture material. Plastic bottles can also be recycled as can used car tyres.
ECODEC will also be starting with crushing cars and heavy equipment in Guadeloupe next year, shipping off the metal to Europe for recycling.
St.Maarten should also consider this, as some areas in Sucker Garden and Arch road has become a visible cemetary for cars and heavy equipment wrecks.

Political will is needed here, and not political babble.

Come next election we will be hearing a lot of political babble about the environment, what we have to tell the politicians is that we demand action on removing the existing dump.

I wonder if they even care that the new government building is being built right next to the exsisting landfill with all the fires and fumes. The civil servants will have to wake up as well and demand that they clean up that landfill before they even consider moving into their new government administration building.

Jadira Veen

Many possibilities of MBT Waste Managment
Anonymous (not verified) | Sat, 2006-11-18 00:03

My Name is Georgino Barnes and I was also at the presentation from Eco-Dec. I have followed the presentation carefully, to get a good understanding how the company processes the waste. I did further research afterwards to learn as much as possible about this waste treatment from the perspective of both the companies and the environmentalist groups. What I have learned so far is the following:

Eco-Dec refered to their process as MBT (mechanical biological treatment), but further research revealed that it is actually a BMT (Biological mechanical treatment) process. The difference between the 2 is that MBT uses mechanical methods first to seperate recoverable material from the organic before biologically processing it. BMT does ithe process in reverse by first letting the mix waste biologicaly degrade and there after sperate the recoverable materials from the compost. Both process are theoretically the same but each take a different approach in processing waste.

I studied numerous websites from MBT/BMT plants to learn how many more methods are there in processing waste. There is one company "Arrow Bio" that uses the MBT approach and with the organics and paper have them go through a process to produce Biogas. Biogas is viewed by many envionmental groups as a green gas as opposed to petrol gas. What is remarkable about the process from Arrow Bio is that with the amount of gas they produce they can generate 5 times the amount of energy that the plant actually requires to operate.

One optional product mentioned by Eco-dec in the presentation is the production of RDF (refuse derived fuel). Eco-Dec's claim is that it is safe and non toxic and can be used to produce energy, although the dutch side wouldn't be able to produce enough to supply a small power plant. Further research about RDF reveals that many environmental groups around the world oppose this product because it contains high quantity of plastics. Burning of RDF result in exhaust emission equal to that of diesel engines because RDF is a petrol based fuel.

Another MBT plant that I have researched on the internet is ISKAH from Germany and it bears very much resemblance to that of Eco-Dec. The website contains several brochures including a 20 page book describing the different configurations, processes, advantages and disadvatages as well as numerous exisitng plants in operation, or to be built soon.

One last waste treatment company I will mention is Wastec Ltd from England. Their company is more flexible in their process of being able to adapt to different methods of waste management such as MBT, waste to energy and other processes. Most St. Maarteners including me as well are already against and incinerator (waste to energy). Wastec developed a method for sorting waste in Material Recovery Treatment (MRT) that is more relaiable and efficient than traditional MRF that has to rely heavily on manual labour just to keep things running efficient. The difference is a device called the Kinetic Streamer.

What the kinetic streamer does is take mixed waste and devide them into 2 primary groups; the flimsy materials and the rigid materials. Once devided into these 2 groups it became alot easier and efficient to seperate the materials using exisitng methods, without having to rely much on manual sorting.
Wastec later realised that their kinetic streamer can be easily adaptable for many different kinds of waste treatment where there was also a need to recover materials, most popular of them is the MBT.

I have personally contacted this company and requested a brochure and video to observe and understand the process based around their kinetic streamer. What I have seen so far is even yet another alternative still for St. Maarten or even have it incorporated with an MBT sytem. Even batteries and other items that other waste companies would try to collect seperately have gone mixed in the system and got sorted out. Ideal for when in the early stages of recycling and re-educating the people.

My whole opinion in all of this is that when we do finally incorporate waste management plant here on st. Maarten we should look carefully at what materials/products we can produce in order to profit from the waste we created. Further more also see a way of gradually recovering what materials there is still recoverable from the dump, as well as remove the most of the dirt in order to enlargen the pond again. This way overtime we can enalrgen it for both historical values as well as enlarging the reservoir to collect rainwater from the hills.

Which ever way you look at it, our dump is no longer the answer due to the amount of garbage produced by both residents and visiotrs alike. The time has come for an alternative right now.

Thank you so much
Flipper | Sat, 2006-11-18 13:44

People like you give me hope for the island.

Dump problem
Anonymous (not verified) | Sat, 2006-11-11 09:00

I note your comments on incineration. Possibly we could look to the east for our problem. Not China or Russia, but St Barts ! They have what appears to be a very well managed incinerator which is small and inconspicuous.

Dump problem 2
jadira veen | Sun, 2006-11-12 11:26

I am responding to an anonymous, I have no idea why anyone would want to stay anonymous with this issue as the landfill or dump depot affect us all.
Health wise, environmental wise, litter wise, eyesore.
I will respond to the incenerator in St.Barths as I know it, I am not totally in the loop with all info, but here is what I have:
The incenerator in St.Barths was paid for by the European Union, it is a small incenerator.
At the time, I understood that the St.Barths government did ask St.Maarten if they would be interested in exporting their trash to St.Barths, there was no response (unconfirmed)
I am talking about many years ago, this incerator is not new to St.Barths.
It has been said to me that the incenerator in St.Barths is an old unit, and if you are reffering to bringing the same type of unit here, I would say it would not work.
If you were present at the ECDOC presentation last wednesday, you would understand why.
The incenerator in St.Barths is located at the end of the Gustavia, not a good location today I think.
Maybe when it was set up, Gustavia was not so built up.
I noticed also a cement plant of sorts nearby as well, Gustavia has gone through a built up period as well, seems that Mayor Magras of St.Barths owns the cement plant.
Please keep in mind that an incenerator does not accept all the trash that you might think it does.
You cannot throw car tyres, green waste, many types of plastics in an incenerator.
Reason why St.Barths has implemented ridding the island of plastic shopping bags, shoppers have to take their own shopping basket or enviro bags to the grocery stores.
Mr. Chouraki stated this in his presentation, he said inceneration does not burn many plastics, but also recylcling some plastics is difficult.
So even with a recycling plant, the supermarkets should get rid of the plastic bags, or offer enviro friendly alternatives.
I urge you to find the thursday edition of the French Newspaper Le Pelican and read for yourself a very good piece of journalism written about our landfill, about recycling and what Jean Luc Hamlet has to say.

Jadira Veen

Great article.
larrygeer | Fri, 2006-11-10 23:17

I wonder if the EXCO gave an answer to the Queen or wondering what excuse they will give, since they had no interest in coming to the gathering we had as an alternative, as they slowly watch the elderly dying of toxic fumes and the younger generation aquiring symtoms of upper resperatory infections. I was at the Government building when she arrived and wonderd why she was riding in the bus, when the Lt. Governor and Head of Government were in the Lincoln Town Car, but then again if she would not of been on the bus sitting directly behind the driver, she may not of seen the Landfill. Doe's anyone have an answer as to why her Majesty was riding in a bus instead of a limousine?.

Her Majesty is a very modest lady
jadira veen | Sat, 2006-11-11 07:08

Dear Larry,

I would only answer to say that her majesty is a modest hardworking lady.
I had the pleasure to meet her in 2001 at the Belvedere housing project.
The meeting was an initiative of our Lt. Governor F.Richards who had organised one of the first community gatherings.
This was before the many community councils were even formed.
I remember that Floryn catering had set up a long table with plastic chairs and one very "Majestic" looking chair for her Majesty.
The Queen came to the table, took one look of the "royal looking out of place chair" and asked if she can also sit in a plastic chair.
So my guess is that she most probably preffers to ride in the bus with the dignataries and other people, than to ride in the Lt. Governors car or a limo.
She also can get more feedback while sitting in the bus with many others, while they are talking, than alone in the limo.
I heard Suzanne saying on Island 92 that her Majesty asked very critical questions to the EXCO, about very current issues.
I am sure the Dutch newspapers will be full of news covering her Majesty visit, so people should read online, as our papers will not be out untill Monday.
I only wish that her Majesty had the oppertunity to meet and speak to some of the environmentalists on this trip.
PJIA was officially opened by her Majesty last evening to a well attended crowd I heard.
My question is: what is PJIA doing with the construction debris of the old PJIA building that is being torn down?
Philipsburg landfill or Simpson Bay lagoon?

Jadira

Old Construction Debris from the old PJIA building
larrygeer | Sat, 2006-11-11 20:29

Dear Jadira:

We could probably count on two things and that is either the Land fill or Lagoon. You know it is a shame that our Government has not taken the time or effort to realize that the enviornment of our Island is so important for now and future generations. Talk about lack of Governance. We sure have it. A 10 th grade dropout from school (Walt Disney was such) can realize that the old junk rusty toxic automobiles and trucks we have just piling up on the Island would be enough to build a skyscrapper in New York City or any other large City for that matter, but please not our Island. Progress is one thing but destruction of the enviornment for such is another, I guess we should call as even an Tourist can see GREED AND CORRUPTION. AND PERSONAL GAIN against the will of the people. Japan and many countries would actually pay us for the scrap metal and at a lower price they would probably collect it and ship it on barges at no cost. We could use that money for Education and our Youth, as we know our Youth are our future. Why can't our Government get it. The people of the U.S finally got it and voted out the Party that used religion and conservatism and greed for the select few as an excuse for their wrongful judgements in their policys, The one thing they misjudged was the will of the people and it was proven on November 7th. We need to do the same thing on the upcoming elections here on the Island in May..

Welcome to the Queen!!
Flipper | Fri, 2006-11-10 21:58

Hey, you never know...... I am pretty sure Suzanne and other journalists know of this site and perhaps she mentioned SXM PE. Or maybe someone else will while she is here, she could learn quite alot I am sure.

If you are reading this, Your Majesty, then I offer my fullhearted welcome to SXM PE and to your Kingdom Island of Sint Maarten. Please feel free to ask questions below or drop me a line at flippersxm at yahoo dot com if I can be of any assistance.

You never know :)

Flipper

Reminder about presentation
Flipper | Tue, 2006-11-07 00:30

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Dear all concerned with our environment,

This is a reminder that the recycling presentation will be this coming Wednesday November 8th.2006 at the Great Bay hotel from 10am-noon.
The Sint Maarten PRIDE foundation together with the Sint Maarten Chamber of Commerce will jointly be hosting Mr. Jacques Chouraki. Mr. Chouraki is president of ECODEC, a French company based in Guadeloupe since 2000, specialized in household and industrial solid waste treatment.

ECODEC is currently recycling plastic waste from Caribbean locations, through local partenrships, islands include Guadeloupe, Martinique, Dominican
Republic, Antigua, Barbados, St. Lucia, St.Vincent and Trinidad. ECODEC is also recycling used car tyres from Guadeloupe,Martinique and Antigua.

This is a great oppertunity to hear how recycling is working on our neighboring islands. On St.Maarten, we are reaching our landfill's capacity to bury garbage, landfills create not only eyesores, but contribute to rodents and underground fires. While there has been talk for a incenerator for the island, Sint Maarten PRIDE foundation believes that a more responsible and safer solution should be looked at such as recycling and reusing our waste.

This presentation is open to the concerned public and environmental groups.

Jadira Veen
Sint Maarten PRIDE foundation
President

Incinerator not a good idea
Anonymous (not verified) | Wed, 2006-11-08 23:47

First of all, we do not prodice enough garbage, even with the French side added.
Secondly, where would they put it, on the pondfill? Right, I'm sure that will be good for the health of the people downwind. I understand the incinerator in Aruba is far from habitation and blows out to sea.
Roy has hooked himself up, or his family, with a company called St Maarten Waste Mangement, you can see many of the big bins with their name on it. He is trying to make a deal for the incinerator without consulting any of the stakeholders. I wonder if he plans to take garbage from the cruise ships for the incinerator too?? The guy is a crook and an idiot, I don't think he plans to run next year, so he really doesn't care about what people think.

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