St. Maarten Westin and Columbia Sussex - Environmental Criminals? - Part 2

The last blog I wrote about Westin and Columbia Sussex is quite full, so I think it's time for a new one. Please note that that the title of these two posts has a question mark. I am asking because I think they are, I am laying out the evidence that has bought me to this conclusion. I thank everyone who has commented and added to the debate, I have to say though, so far no one's changed my mind.

Profiles of The Windward Island episode on Dawn Beach.

More evidence to support my opinion below.
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Now let me first define what I consider 'Environmental Criminals' to be. It has little to do with the laws of the land (we don't really have any it seems), because destroying the environment is a crime against everyone, it is a crime against nature and our suffering island and planet. Destroying natural and endangered ecosystems is probably the worst of all and that's what I consider Columbia Sussex to have done and is still doing.

An email arrived yesterday with some new photos. You've seen the ones with the cement mixer and the sludge being pumped into the sea, but what I want to bring to your attention in them is the drainage culvert which was shown under construction in this post.

The mud and silt that washes down the valley now goes straight down the culvert into the sea. Yes, they did build a 'retention pool but it is too small and it is always full of water, leaving little room for water to settle and filter, it used to do this through the sand. This has been going on since August 2005 when they cleared the land and filled in the ponds, EVERY TIME it rains heavy. The reef was struggling against bleaching and hurricane damage anyway, now it is probably doomed completely.

Here are some more photos showing what happens there when it rains. I added this last one in because it shows the generator pump they used to pump the sludge into the sea, at night when no one could see what they were doing.

Until the Kadaster, VROM and or ROB go over there to check the measurements against the conditions of the permits then the question if they are on the beach remains unresolved. Neither of the local newspapers have touched this story, but that is hardly surprising considering.

Today Editorial - On the Map - 9th November 2005

Daily Herald Editorial - On the Map - 8th November 2005

Daily Herald Weekender - Westin boost to island - 2nd September 2006

Today Editorial - Dawn of new development - 21st june 2006

Now, adding to all this just a few more things. Firstly how they treat their employees. That SVB raid for example, when all the workers went running off into the bushes. This article tells you what you need to know, and raises the questions, for me anyway, if Columbia Sussex were avoiding paying taxes or other govt dues on those unregistered workers.

Then there is the case of Joe Miller, I strongly suggest you to go and read some of those articles, in particular his letters. It also stands to reason that because Westin is planning to manage Coral Beach as well, that they, like Duck, want Ms' B's gone and I predict they will try again.

I'll finish up with this.

It is my opinion that Westin and Columbia Suxsit want to make the beach as private as they possibly can for the guests of their hotel and condos, this is why they use the slogan 'Imagine a beach to call your very own'. No word has been said about public parking and access to the beach, no reporter has asked to see on the plans where they will be, no reporter dares to. In the years of Scavengers there would often be between 30 - 50 cars parked there, sometimes maybe more and during the week too. I hazzard that they will make no more than a dozen available and the rest will be used for the Car Rental Company that operates there. A car rental company contract that has been given to one of Roy's buddies.

It is my opinion that Roy's balls really are in Billy Yungs pocket, that he's squeezing them hard right about now too.

Letting Westin claim the beach as private property as he does will be the beginning of the end of public right and use of beaches. Current descriptions or ideas circulating about the redevelopment of Mullet Bay report that the road will be moved closer to the lagoon and there will be villa's, condos and maybe highrises on the beach, within a gated area. The same thing will happen there, same restricted access and use of beach for us, the residents of the island.

I guess local people really better wake up, because next year they may find that on St. Maartin's Day they have no beach left to go to, at least not with all the family. If it was my decision, I would arrange for the whole island to be at Dawn Beach on opening day, with kids and dogs, bbq's and cooler boxes. And if I wasn't an environmentalist I would say leave the fricking garbage there too.

And that's my case, I invite you all to respond if you think I'm not seeing something, or seeing too much. Or if you agree.

I have to say, if you think Global Warming as a reality as more and more people are accepting day by day, then you wouldn't be investing in this place. Sheet rock walls?? Too Funny. I wonder if when we get a good hard Hurricane come through, and we will, have no doubt, if we will end up with another Mullet Bay scenario, where owners of condos and Westin get into a long drawn out fight over a ruin.

Local Hero

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Submitted by Local Hero on Wed, 2006-10-04 23:34.

More Dawn Beach Documents
Local Hero | Fri, 2006-10-06 02:03

I don't really have time to go into these right now but I hope to tomorrow or Saturday. Till then feel free to discuss them. I will say what I have noticed in a glance.

Public Parking spaces - 9
Distance from coast line - 45 meters (147ft)
It is also estimated that 12% or all St Maarten runoff water comes down the Dawn Beach Valley/

Dawn Beach Letter of Comfort - 11th March 2005

Meeting with VROM Minutes - 11th May 2005

Westin - Babit Bay permit - 24th May 2005

Letter informing of objections and deliberations - 28th September 2006

Peytons Plan - Pre Suxsit

Dawn Beach - More photos from 2005

The Old Dawn Beach Hotel

I have been filming Dawn Beach for over 3 years
Anonymous (not verified) | Thu, 2006-10-05 10:58

Before the constrcution started and the ChairMon and Bar were still there . I go to the same vantage point in Oyster Pond Estates and I walk right down to the beach thru the construction each time , the guards were very friendly ( to me ) and even allowed me to drive my car down to the beach edge right htru the construction.

I wasn't doing this because I was snooping on the Westin but more for like a video diary for myself and our own villa project. The video is quite telling . It shows everything , because I was very thorough. It's shows the beach from stem to stern , shows the irrigation "pond" , the exact shoreand water lines , the highwater line , the seagrass line, the vegetation line. It shows no buildings anywhere near the beach except Chair-Mon and Beach Bar. I am actually going to cue up the video right now and view it , I'll get back with you on my thoughts of it .

If this comes down to a lawsuit, this video which is over 4 hours long and spans 3+ years can be used . As I said it is ONLY of that area in which the Westin sits.

Dawn Beach Queen

irrigation pond?
Anonymous (not verified) | Fri, 2006-10-06 03:38

The little Dawn beach pond was a pond.
Just as Red Pond is a Pond.
Ponds serve as catchments for rain water coming down the hills.
The Dawn beach pond had mangroves and served it's purpose very well.
I have no idea what Dawn Beach Queen is referring as an irrigation pond.
Sounds like a new term to defend the very bad mistake that Roy made to allow the developers to remove the pond and come up with another bad mistake to build a culvert.
People, please go to Dawn Beach for yourself, and see where this culvert is coming out right into the beach with no filtration system. Worse yet, the beach can always experience high tides from the Atlantic Ocean and the sea will enter the culvert from the beach side. I do hope Roy Marlin will go down as one of the worst environmental offenders along with Westin Columbia Sussex.
Remember, the first planning permit said that the pond has to stay and not be altered, the second planning permit said that the pond could be "moved" altered and whatever else.
Westin Columbia Sussex a la William Young completely removed a natural pond, they hired the local gangsta's to do this, the Toochie Meyers gang helped along by a well known arsenist who served jail time for burning down our government building.
You know people,....... when the Nazi's took control of european countries, they did so with people just like Toochie and Willie, people that did not care about people going to the gas chambers, their only care in the world is their pocket.

irrigation pond
Anonymous (not verified) | Fri, 2006-10-06 19:39

Don't be such an ass by accusing me of being in cahoots with the likes of Roy Marlin or any of the other schiesters dealing with the Westin project. I just as soon fuck a snake .

By me saying that it was an irrigation pond , wasn't meant by any means to diminish that fact that it is a pond and it shouldn't be touched. It looks like they have built a retaining ditch, catch basin, pond or whateverthefuck you want to call it between the Westin trailer and Princess Heights.

I hope they get so flooded in the rooms there that they have to spend 4 million extra to re-engineer the entire project. Serves them right . So , now you know what side of the square I'm on , Any questions ?

DBQueen

Culvert Information you have is incorrect.
Anonymous (not verified) | Thu, 2006-10-05 12:48

I have video of that area as the Westin had broken ground (mid/lt2005)and the land is completely cleared and pylons are in and that culvert you have pictured was already there . It was overgrown with brush but you can clearly see it in my video . It empties out unto the beach area toward the OysterPond side , not the Dawn Beach Estates side . I viewed the video to refresh my memory and it has good shots of the area , there are other things on the video such as RedPond , Guana Bay and Gibbs Bay . Shows all the wonder vegatation and shoreline. There is no contestation that Red Pond is a pond in this video. The video has a glint at the irrigation "pond" on Dawn Beach. As I said it was more for myself than anything but it happened to capture the progression of the Westin without even really trying .

DBQueen

The Culvert info is correct
Local Hero | Fri, 2006-10-06 00:07

As these pictures show it being built by Babitbay/Westin. The only thing there was a small wall and a fence, all the way along to scavengers. All water used to drain into the ponds.

AS you can see the concern of residents along this side of the property, the wall of the culvert would leave a hole on their side which would fill with water. I guess Westin wanted to give them their own pond.

I have lots moe photos if needed. Perhaps you could cut a small clip from your video and post it on YouTube to show us what you see.

Local Hero

Culvert PIcture with dumpster
Anonymous (not verified) | Fri, 2006-10-06 19:47

You wrote : "but what I want to bring to your attention in them is the drainage culvert which was shown under construction in this post."

I misunderstood you . I thought you were posting this picture as a "brand new " picture "the culvert which was shown under construction". I was trying to point out that it was in one of my videos from August 2005 and that if you thought the culvert was just constructed , it was not . Sorry, for any misunderstanding .

I will see if I can do the Youtube thing . I'm not that computer literate , but will try it .

DBQueen

Confusion about Culvert
Flipper | Fri, 2006-10-06 21:49

Silly DB Queen, I think you did misunderstand and I think LH was thinking that you were saying the culvert had always been there since Scavenger days.

Are you related to DB Princess? :)

I don't think LH was suggesting the Culvert was a new thing, it was one of the first things Suxsit did there while they started ripping down the hillside and raising the valley floor bv over 2 meters. The culvert got covered up after. I think he was pointing out what a ridiculous situation to have.

The so called hole in the ground that Suxsit built at the bottom of the road coming down the hill on the right is ridiculously small and does not serve the function that a proper retention pond would or should.

I wonder which insurance company is going to offer insurance for this place and what the premiums are likely to be considering it could be flattened any year. And what about Flash Flooding? What if someone, a tourist for example, or their child, gets killed in one. Would members of Suxsit then be liable for Jail Time? It's not like everyone involved with the project haven't been warned now is it.

Time will tell......

insurance
Anonymous (not verified) | Sat, 2006-10-07 17:29

To anon above,
Thanks for bringing up the topic of insurance.
I have thought of the same, who and which company in their right mind will be insuring this WESTIN and CORAL SHORE development?
These people WILL experience a hurricane and then they will see what a terrible job they have done.
Of course the people of SXM will again be staring at empty buildings a-la- Mullet Bay, so then the population should hold R. Marlin responsible, even if he is not in government anymore.

I agree
Flipper | Thu, 2006-10-05 11:36

Once you let one beach become semi private and with restricted acccess, others will follow. It's not just us locals who are going to have trouble finding somewhere to go with our children, but our tourists too. It will be more a case of you can only really use this beach if you are staying at our hotel, or if you can find somewhere to park.

I agree with your opinion that these people don't want low life locals crowding their high paying guests 'Beach of theri own' and I think the beach party is a great idea, just every damn week.

The distance from the waterline detailed in the permits has been mentioned several times in the press. 50M and 33m.

About Jobs, Roy once claimed 600 jobs would be created, then it was 400 and now it's 300. Yet, when Westin started interviews it turns out to be 180. Does the guy ever stop talking what those red trucks pump?

And yesterday there was this article which I intend to write about tonight. The man thinks it takes too long to get permits approved because it's too easy for people to lodge an objection. He wants to shorten the process so the decisions do not go in front of the Island Council but the ExCo. People with objections will be forced to pay up to go to court, this affect EVERYONE. And it gives far too much power to someone who abuses that which he has already.

This must NOT be allowed to happen, if anything we need stricter and more comprehensive reviews of planning permits, including environmental studies and infrastructre assesments. This decision comes from the Erato's who are pissed that two more objections from the Nature Foundation and SXM Pride were lodged against Aquarius, they were pissed big time. It also comes from Westins plans for the Millenium project and of course Mullet Bay. All these developers are supporters of the DP party.

This is going to be a fight and we are going to hold EVERY opposition member accountable to oppose it. Sadly, all of them except Gracita seems to have fallen into a trap because of their eagerness about permits for one of their friends. All Roy has to say is that they wanted permits to be granted faster.

How depressing.

Flipper

Time is tight
Flipper | Fri, 2006-10-06 11:17

Haven't had time to write about Roy's plans to change permit proceedures yet.

I wonder how many people took notice of it.

I will in the next day or so.

Flipper

From my E-mail
Anonymous (not verified) | Fri, 2006-10-06 13:45

We will be closing the Westin road for sewer pipe install next weekend starting from 10/7/06 to 10/9/06.

I hope to have the pipe installed by midday Sunday & went long through Monday to be safe.

But I'm sure my trencher will do the job.

We contacted Public Works & they informed Babitbay that no notice was required in the papers, so I'm trying to get the word out now.

Respectfully, Dale D. Zager

Westin road closure
Anonymous (not verified) | Fri, 2006-10-06 14:44

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Road name
Anonymous (not verified) | Sun, 2006-10-08 09:24

Dale,
There is no Westin Road that exists on St. Maarten and probably not anywhere else for that matter. The name of the roads that connect are the Oyster Pond Road and Melford Hazel Road.
This may seem minor to you but I'm sure the family of Melfod Hazel would take extreme offense to arbitrarily renaming a road that honors a national Hero.

Road name
Zager | Sun, 2006-10-08 15:43

Dear Anon,
I appreciate your concern on the name's of the road's in the Tamrind Hill ,Dawn Bch. area.
When I wrote my email 1 week ago to a local friend & neighbor I did not expect it to end up on SXM PI, or I would have been more politically & locally correct.
As I do take things personal, I have researched all of my local maps & internet site's for Melford Hazel Road.
My local maps all indicate the road as Oyster Pond Road from Hulda B. Richardson Rd. & connecting back to Suckergarden Rd.
Only after searching the web was I able to find mention of the road when I stumbled across Century21 website listing their Dawn Bch. office on MH Rd.
If you got a glance at my poorly constructed "Road Closed at the Westin" signs , which I had placed , I think you would have recognized that it was never my intention to call it the Westin Rd.
I was able to get the sewer line installed & the road opened by 8 PM Sat. evening.
The road conditions are still poor but will be redone in the next few month's.
As for other roads with the Westin name, one is located on the island of Kauai , Hawaii and one in Madison, Wisconsin.
Respectfully, Dale D. Zager
Zager Plumbing NV

A comment to Dale re:road
Anonymous (not verified) | Sun, 2006-10-08 13:47

Dale,

I too did not understand which WESTIN road you are reffering to, if it is WESTIN narrow passage way to the beach on WESTIN property, then there is indeed no reason to make a NOTICE.
But if it is the road coming from the Tamarinde Hill and Dawn Beach Estates, then you have to advertise that the road would be closed.
These people at Public Works have proven on more than one occassion that they are a bunch of fools and I hope to god one day they will be held liable for their incompetency and stupidity, one has to wonder if they told you this as another go-ahead from Roy Marlin to appease you developers.
I agree with the author above, that foreign developers have to have respect for the local culture, local heroes and local norms, you are guests here, we are your hosts, it is just makes us cringe that our politicans are in your pocket and they conveniently forget who voted them in, they forget the local people for their own money making and million dollar houses on a hill in Oyster Pond/Dawn Beach.

Just like in Iraq
Local Hero | Sat, 2006-10-14 02:49

Westin are doin a heckofa job winning hearts and minds.

Westin damages TelEm cable - 10th October 2006

TelEm cables damaged by 'West Inn' - 10th October 2006

Did anyone see the Profiles Episode? I will try to get Dwight to let us have the whole thing. I guess the next step is to start asking VROM, ROB and Kadaster if they have been over there yet. The local papers don't want to touch it, weasels that they are.

LH

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