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I haven't seen the editorial from the Today on Saturday that has made Leopold James so upset, but having listened to Nation Talk in the past I am not surprised that he was asked to moderate and tone down the content. Having listened in to the show before I can safely say that the complaints about the content are quite probably justified.
Leopold is not one to admit he is wrong, clearly he thinks anyone who has a criticism or problem with his approach and mindset is to him anti SXM and subject to his scorn. I've listened and I have heard some talk and call ins that very much creep into xenophobic hate speech, in particular against Haitians. The station is quite right to request and warn him about his show, but clearly the guy is too thick headed to understand why. Ill try to get the editorial, or someone else will, and post it here later.
OPEN LETTER TO ALL SUPPORTERS OF NATIONtalk. - 22nd December 2008
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Today O & C - Leopold - Ugly - 31st December 2008
Today Editorial - Leopold James - Necessary adjustments - 29th December 2008

Dear 'I',
My initial response to your to what you posted above (NATIONtalk) is a notice sent by us to all the local media, which was published yesterday in the website www.smn-news.com. It makes your accusation of 'xenophobic hate speech', here nor there.
If we were 'xenophobic', would it make sense to place the following notice inviting the general public, in the community bill-board of all local media?
And by the way dear 'I', please show me any example of any group that came to this island, and that is as inclusive and inviting to the native-indigenous St. Martiners, they came and MET living here as a people with a collective set of norms and values and a shred history and ancestry.
It is easy to accuse those who say the things others prefer not to hear, and consequently anonymously to respond by attempting to destroy the messenger. That does not show intelligence, style nor character to say the least.
However, the MESSAGE will still be there.
Native-indigenous St. Martin people have the right to speak out and defend their ancestral civil-rights in their own home, even if others hate them for that.
Let's talk after you have read the message below and perhaps you one day will become a great supporter of NATIONtalk.
Leopold JAMES
VOLUNTEERS NEEDED.
Saturday, 27 December 2008
The St. Martin Nation Building Foundation (SNBF), the Association L' Esprit de Concordia and NATIONtalk are in need of volunteers willing to contribute towards promoting the St. Martin nation building process.
This process of bringing all people together, should be at the core of any constitutional-, and other forms of developments in order to be successful and sustainable and to bring balance- and harmony.
For more information, please contact either of the following persons, Diane HODGE, Larissa HODGE ( 05 90 520958), 'Jesse Torres ADAMS' ( 06 90 885223), Jerome SARDINE (5205177), Chris EMMANUEL ( 5237348), Leopold JAMES ( 5443512 or 5260065)
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Leopold James
President SNBF & L'Esprit de Concordia
I saw your comment and response to this post last night, but it was too late and I was too tired to write my reply. I wanted to be able to spend time on it because I think these are important matters and I think it is respectful to do so.
I'm not a regular listener of your show, sometimes I catch it if I am out, but there was a time about 18 months ago when I listened to most of a few shows and even recorded some (unfortunately I can't find them at this moment). What I heard did border on inciting and encouraging dislike of certain groups of people like Haitians and no attempts were made to moderate or respond to callers who took it to extremes. Calling Haitians dirty and blaming them for the problems and state the island is in does create a form of racist or caste hatred, sorry, but it's true, and very misdirected.
In your response you ask me to show you any example of any group that came to this island, and that is as inclusive and inviting to the native-indigenous St. Martiners, they came and MET living here as a people with a collective set of norms and values and a shred history and ancestry.
First of all, I have a problem with the way you 'group' people, paint them with a brush. Are all Muslims terrorists? Are all Jews devious, or all Dutch Colonialists, all Haitians smelly? Are all young black men muggers, or all rednecks stupid? OK, most rednecks are, but I'm sure there are many who are not. I could go on but I think you and the readers get my point, that generalizing and painting any nationality or minority with the same brush is a dangerous path to follow. So no, I can't put forwards any 'group' who meet your requirements, but I can name many individuals who are good candidates.
Do you know what the word 'stagnant' is? That's what happens to an insular and closed society. Or perhaps you should look up Moral Zeitgeist.
I imagine you also have family members living and settled in other countries too, they have to deal with people like the KKK's, BNP's or Le Pens of where they are. What you want seem to want to create is first and second classes of citizenry, a divided society where citizenry is based on how much one conforms and adapts to a set of values you have created. SXM is traditionally a christian community, as an atheist must I start to go to church to qualify, or be looked down upon if I don't? Laveist and many others call cockfighting cultural, I consider it cruel and backward, but I will have to accept it right? I could even argue that corruption is cultural, a way of life, I should shut down this website or stop publishing articles and blogs about it.
The next thing you go on to say is "It is easy to accuse those who say the things others prefer not to hear, and consequently anonymously to respond by attempting to destroy the messenger. That does not show intelligence, style nor character to say the least."
From what I read, the Radio Station informed you that there had been complaints about the content of your radio show and that you were being asked to tone down and moderate it better. You, with indignation, responded that you won't be censored, instead of taking their concerns into account you demonstrated a deafness to things you don't want to hear. You and I have a responsibility as hosts of public forums, yours on the radio and me this one here, we need to be vigilant against extremist, slanderous, misleading and racist or nationalist hate speech, against any minority.
Anyway, I have to go, there is more I would like to say though. There are times when I agree with what you have to say and I sympathize with you on the immigration boom over the past 20 years or so, that 'barn here's' are now a minority. Immigrants are not to blame for that, your (our) government is, the one that SXM'ers voted into office year after year, who fed you lies of providing jobs (ie Westin - 450- Roy Marlin) and that unrestrained and free for all development was a good thing. They are the ones who have failed you.
Like I said, I have heard your show and I have heard comments and callers say things that in civilized countries would be considered incitement and hate speech and discrimination towards immigrants. I am glad for you that your show will continue, I have no wish to see you silenced. I just hope you do think more on this whole matter in your future shows and be a little more aware of these things.
We would find agreement on many things Mr. James, but on others we probably would not. I like diversity and I want to see the many minorities and 'groups' in the community come together, but not to create some conformist collective. I see your chant of 'indigenous over all' as divisive, like it or not, St. Maarten is now a multi cultural society. Anyone with a Dutch/Netherlands Antilles Passport is equal to you, regardless if your family came here 300 years ago as slaves, or however they came here.
As to anonymity, you are very aware of how corrupt the the island is, this site has writers that discuss things that involve power and big money, there are some dangerous people out there who do not like us. I have no wish to end up in the lagoon tied down with batteries like some poor guy not so long ago. Nor, as demonstrated by the lack of any news on that story, do I trust in the justice forces of the island to ever solve it if I did. We try here to focus more on content and what is said, instead of who is saying it.
Have to go, Flipper.
The Today Editorial that upset Leopold so much.
NationTalk
Leopold James’ radio program NationTalk aired for the last time on December 24 via 98.1 Pearl FM. Station-manager Roberto Wilson received too many complaints from listeners who felt that the program was inciting hatred.
James, of course, did not want to hear about this. He does not want to compromise the position of NationTalk by changing its format. In other words, James wants to keep doing what he has always been doing, and Pearl FM has had enough of it. One could well wonder what took them so long.
We have written before that in a democracy everybody, including Leopold James, is entitled to voice her or his opinion. That’s what freedom of speech is all about.
But that NationTalk turned people off to such an extent that they actually complained about the program’s content is telling. At times that content was outright creepy, like, after Today had (correctly) labeled union leader Willy Haize in a column as ‘a convicted arsonist.’ After this matter was more or less settled in a broadcast on Oral Gibbes Live, NationTalk saw fit to attack the Today-columnist, wondering on air, and we quote, maybe he is a pedophile.
Such a statement says more about the one who makes it than it does about the subject of such a remark, but it characterizes the program’s atmosphere.
While we have no recordings of NationTalk available, we do know from letters to the editor that James prefers to send all foreigners back to their country of origin. In a Christmas message exactly a year ago, James linked (black) foreigners to un-Godly rituals, witchcraft, sorcery and AIDS. White foreigners, James wrote at the time, “always dreamed of an island in the sun, where because of their complexion and false sense of superiority they would be able to be treated like Robinson Crusoe.”
He also wrote that “claiming our human rights as native-indigenous people is the only remaining peaceful way out of a most certain social revolution on the island.”
Such thinly veiled threats were also the hall mark of NationTalk, in many different ways. The program probably hardly ever really crossed the line, but it managed to install a feeling of uneasiness in many people who happened upon these diatribes.
In a letter to the editor of a local newspaper published in October of last year, James openly threatened foreign journalists: “We hope that these expat-brains who got lost on the Friendly Island continue writing their misdirected diatribes in our local newspapers, so that we can forward them back home.”
The message Leopold James and his ilk have for us is clear, and it is becoming very, very stale. That NationTalk disappears from the airwaves is therefore the best news we heard in a long time.
ATTACK ON NATIONTALK FUELING SXM PRIDE & NATIONALISM.
Really, anyone who criticizes him or calls him out on things he say's does, or is said on his show is Anti-St Maartener. Or is it Anti St.-Martiner? The other letter that he wrote calling for an investigation of Anti-SXM activities and workers reminds me of that US Rep. lady who called for investigations into Anti-US activities by congress members, ie Democrats. Pathetic.
ABout 25% of what he says has some merit and intelligence, the rest is garbage and immature gibberish. Rise Up Leopold, why not get Willy to burn down some of those Anti SXMer's. It's hard to believe anyone takes this man seriously, he's his own worst enemy.
Dr. Voodoo
Yea, keep laughing at Leopold and his followers. Keep dismissing everything as pathetic. I don't agree with everything the man says. But you're naive to think that the gospel according to James et al will never come tru. There are alot of sxm'ners in my circles who feels the same way. Anybody who dismisses this group run the risk of motivating them into real action. I'm just saying, don't take the people of sxm who consider themselves indeginous for granted.
I cannot believe it took people that long to realize what Mr. James is all about.
It took just a few words from his mouth, years, years ago for me to realize that his way was not "THE" way. I cannot tell you what he is really all about since I do not read his articles anymore or listened to his program but I knew way back then that it was not the direction I wanted or wanted for my kids.
While I believe that we have to stand up and fend for ourselves, there is a limit to how one deals with fending for themselves. And that was simply not my way.
I won't say I am happy they did it but I guess they have good reasons to do so.
I also hope that this will give Mr. James a wake up call, he has the intelligence, at least on paper.
A.M. "A Minority"
To understand what Mr. James is talking about, you'll have to be a "St Martiner " generations back. If you were raised on this little rock in the 40s', 50s' and 60s' you would understand what he's talking about. You are running a "race" card that is not true.
Is it the word 'indigenous" that incites hate? No. Mr James lived in Holland for many years before moving back here with his family. What he saw and most of us saw too upon returning is more than you can imagine. We do not like what this island has become. Mr. James also was not the only one to talk about the development of this island at such fast pace and the consequences to that. The late Dr. Petit did in the 70s' while the late Dr Claude Wathey was seeing another St Maarten.
Back then there were the few Americans living in the Lowlands area, very few Europeans who loved this island and enjoy its beauty. Today, there isn't a hill that is not touched or owned by so called investors. Investing in what? Hospitals, Roads, Schools??? where? Who's pocketing?
Mr. James is horrified of the ST Martin some of you only know: the lagoon, the salt pond are polluted. Mullet Bay that St Maarteners are not proud of. Westin and Dawn Beach, etc... Who's responsible for the mess we are in?
His call is for St Martiners to stand up and be heard. But as Flipper rightfully said, people are beginning to talk but are well aware of what it can cost them.
Please do not let Mr. James' tone turn you away from the real message he's trying to drive home to the St Martin people. It is not about Hate.
A St Maartener,
for my people
I noticed this past week a public announcement by SMNN that states that Nationtalk was deliberately removed from the air. As far as I am aware, and as stated by Pearl FM, Nationtalk left because they didn't like being told to moderate their program. Perhaps if Bibi is reading this, she can explain why the PA distorts the truth or if she can provide more information to validate the statement.
SMNN Public Annouoncement - 18th January 2009
Pearl FM says Nationtalk left on own accord - 13th January 2009
Nation Talk finished - 24th December 2008