Pastors lobbying against 3100 homosexuals visiting here in November - 2nd June 2007

CHURCHES OPPOSE GAY CRUISE

Philipsburg—Some of St. Maarten churches are lobbying to divert a Mariner of the Seas cruise with 3100 gay passengers from visiting the island in November this year. The St. Maarten United Ministerial Foundation (SMUMF) with support from the St. Maarten Christian Council of Churches have declared that a gay cruise to St. Maarten would bring destruction and calamity on the island, as was the case of the city of Sodom and Gomorrah recorded in the Bible and other cities in recent years.

Commissioner Theo Heyliger promised the pastors in a meeting yesterday that he would bring their concerns to the Executive Council, SMUMF President Pastor Edwin Arrindell said. He did not commit to preventing the cruise from coming to St. Maarten but instead pointed to other islands that shunned such cruises and were labeled discriminatory towards homosexuals.

Pastor Edwin Arrindell, President of SMUMF cautioned against discrimination but said on a Radio Soualiga newscast after the meeting that God’s law is higher than man’s law. “We want to comply by the laws as well but we serve a higher law and we are concerned about the moral impact that (the cruise) can have on the island. We just cannot look at it economically, we have to look at the bigger picture,” Arrindell said. The pastors will meet among themselves to analyze the outcome of the meeting with Heyliger and look at the legal aspect to their protest. The clergymen assured they have a plan of action and they would be addressing the issue in stages, even if government allows the ship to dock on St. Maarten.

Allowing the cruise here is unhealthy, sends a negative message to our youth, is immoral and encourages violence, the pastors argued in a press conference yesterday at the Thy Kingdom Come Ministries Church on the Longwall Road. Bishop Leyland Sam referred to the visiting gay journalists that were beaten in Beacon Hill last year and said they do not want a reoccurrence of this incident. “We don’t want this gay ship to dock on our island. We have lived without the gay dollar and we can survive without the gay dollar,” Sam said.

Pastor Esmond Fleming said that the church on St. Maarten has always been opposing homosexuality as it wreaks chaos on a society. “One person from the French side said that after a group of gays stayed and had some activity at a particular hotel, the hotel went down and never recovered,” Fleming said.

However, the churches do not hate homosexuals, Apostle Elmeade Allen explained. He said that the pastors have written to various government departments on the issue and have now decided to publicly state their views on the issue. Allen also said that there are many ills in the St. Maarten society that the church is addressing behind the scenes. “However, we as spiritual leaders in the St. Maarten community, we have a responsibility that all ills must be spoken out against. Today we are speaking against the whole issue of the visit of this ship, which will be carrying the gay passengers, tomorrow it may be something else,” Allen said.

Minister Erna Mae Francis of the Victorious Living Foundation explained that while they respect person’s opinion, God’s word is the higher authority. She said that they are not bashing homosexuals, but they can receive spiritual help instead, which the church must address. Pastor Elijah Singer stressed that it is not the opinion of the pastors that count, but what God says on the matter based on the Bible. The gay lifestyle, he said is destroying the fabric of the society where they impose their way of life on the community. Singer, who is also the publisher of the Good News Herald, said that this month’s issue speaks out on same sex marriages.

From St. Martin News Network

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Submitted by Dr. Voodoo on Sat, 2007-06-02 20:53.

let them come
Anonymous (not verified) | Sun, 2007-06-03 07:40

What a lot of BS! I do not really support the idea of specific a gay cruise. But I also do not like specific heterosexual cruises, senior citizen cruises or christian cruises. The point is that a group of people is visiting the island and we - the people of SXM - should not care who is coming, of what they believe, feel or practice in private. We should give them a warm reception, be friendly and let them have a good holiday.
All those ministers, pastors and other self proclaimed speakers of "the word of god" should not forget that there are laws to respect. No discrimination, all men are equal, regardless of religion, descent or otherwise.
Look at article 1 of the kingdom constitution: ‘Art 1. Allen die zich in Nederland bevinden , worden in gelijke gevallen gelijk behandeld. Discriminatie wegens godsdienst, levensovertuiging, politieke gezindheid, ras, geslacht of op welke grond dan ook, is niet toegestaan.’ And that is exact what will happen when all the religious groups and people will be heard. So, the ExCo should not speake about this at all.
And, to Erna Mae Francis. I do not think these people need any "help" from you. They are not in need of any.

Churches Oppose Gay Cruise
Anonymous (not verified) | Sat, 2007-06-02 23:56

Personally I could care less if the ship stops or not, but who are these self made Council of Chruches to judge anyone. If they were such authority figures, then why do we have some much crime and sinful things going on on this Island. Appartently this group of self made Apostles are working for Satan. I live by Enenezer Cul de Sac and there is one Church called Victory Temple that preaches and rolls all over the floor with a loud speaker system preaching how everyone is going to hell and that nothing but Fire and Brimstone are awaiting them.

I am sure that a loving God would not scare the hell out of all the congregation with all that silly emotional behavior and then each time someone rolls down the aisle and feels the so called holy spirit and is speaking in satans tongue (scripture: "What is not of God is of Satan" and fo course the offering basket is brought out again. I am sorry but I think the m ajority of these people are hypocrites. I know of two ministers of these so called reputable churches that are and have been commiting adultery. What kind of message does that give to our Youth?

The majority of these so called Churches are havens for demons. They are not preaching the word of God and his Son, but rather scaring the hell out of the people and work on their weaknesses to collect their money. These type of people are the most dangerous to society,because I know for a fact that there are homosexuals and all types of perverts within the congregation as well as the ministry, but they try to stay in the closet and therefore these type of people are the type to rape and molest members of their own congregation.

They call themselves born again, well so has George Bush and look what destruction he and his Council have caused the world. As far as I am concerned this group of people are born again fallen angels just looking for prey and the mighty Guilder or Dollar. If one truly believes in the Bible then they will recognize that in the book of Revelations, Satan is surely gathering his people in the last days and those are the ones that are told"Ye shall be born again" I personally know a few of these people on the Council that are always beckoning at ones door for a handout and that handout if not going to the right places or we would not be in the state of affairs that we are with overridden crime, drug addiction, domestic violence, school dropouts and overpopulated prisons, along with crimes of violence against all living things that were created by God..

I know there are some good people amongst the congregations, but they are being led by Sheep in Wolves Clothing and since they are continously brainwashed into believeing they are of no value and only God is of value, then how could you expect any other type of behavior from them. It amazes me how they can make comment about a Gay Group of People coming in on a cruise ship, but yet I don't see any of these people (Council) at the airport chasing off the so called Dancers (Prostitutes) that come in to sell their asses. But I guess the Council thinks that is o.k. and acceptable. Oh I hope they don't resort to that old trick of it being a cultural thing.

That is bullshit and a cop out. Remember "What is not of God is of Satan", so stop throwing stones while living in your glass houses.and as far as Sodom and Gommorah, well they had whorehouses, so perhaps we're already there. The only one that any of you have to fearful of is God, as we were all born thru the seed of Adam, so perhaps all of you are fearful of yourselves and fear that you will want to experience that same sex feeling again. What nost of you really need is Physchiatric sessions, but then again all of that money you have collected off of the people that you have put fear into has not even contributed to a Mental Health Section of our Hospital, but one would assume you are driving nice cars and living in nice houses that are either being paid for by the congregation or tapping the collection plate.

Get facts correct
Anonymous (not verified) | Wed, 2007-08-08 15:02

This ship is hosting a gay/lesbian group of 400-500 travellers. The remainder of the 3100 folks will (presumably) be heterosexual. Since not everyone on board disembarks, at most this ship will bring just a few hundered gay/lesbian folks ashore. I dare say that any given week of tourism brings similar groups of gay/lesbian folks to St. Maarten by chance anyway... Too bad the religious zealots can't be bothered to check their facts first before inciting bigotry and hate.

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