I beg to differ Flip. With all due respect, I think your comment was a twist to steer to convo clear of a discussion you don't want. When people write to make a point, they draw comparisons to make said point. Fuzz mentions a number of comparisons (bullfightig, slavery et al) to make his or her point. It's rather slick to say that he or she wasn't comparing. Riight. The part that insulted me was the comparison or even mere mention of slavery in the same sentence, breath or blog as cockfighting. It's a far-fetched comparison to make. Furthermore, the connection between cruelty to animals and human beings is a THEORY that not every human being fits into. My grandfather and father and uncles were loving, devoted husbands and fathers. You speak in generalities and that's unfair. They fought cocks, were not violent men, served as community workers and civil servants of both sides of the island. So I do not relate to any type of connection between your so-called cruelty to chickens. I'm confident that most indeginous sxm'ners don't either and therefore I was insulted. I present to you a different perspective you should think about. I understand however that people who talk about issues concerning sxm culture get uncomfortable and defensive when their position is challenged by a sxm'ner who is firm enough to say hey, I like this part of my culture just fine. And i'm insulted that you dubbed that as false and weak. Can you relate to what I explained? No you probably can't. So how are you blessed with the ability to determine what I felt was weak or false? You can't broad-stroke a person simply because you are of one mind-set and she is of the other. That is not the way a discussion works. You should instead try to "get" what the other person was saying. You dissapoint me in this regard. If you don't want the discussion to "go there" say so. Simply say JB, lets try focus on cock-fighting and not deviate. But you know what the problem is in THIS instance? Writers should be extremely careful how they use socially, culturally and racially sensitive subjects as examples. When you do that, for some people, yours truly included, I will take it out and point out that its down-right insulting and inappropriate to use such a reference. And I stand by that.
Thats a twist Flip
Anonymous (not verified) | Sat, 2008-04-12 16:10
I beg to differ Flip. With all due respect, I think your comment was a twist to steer to convo clear of a discussion you don't want. When people write to make a point, they draw comparisons to make said point. Fuzz mentions a number of comparisons (bullfightig, slavery et al) to make his or her point. It's rather slick to say that he or she wasn't comparing. Riight. The part that insulted me was the comparison or even mere mention of slavery in the same sentence, breath or blog as cockfighting. It's a far-fetched comparison to make. Furthermore, the connection between cruelty to animals and human beings is a THEORY that not every human being fits into. My grandfather and father and uncles were loving, devoted husbands and fathers. You speak in generalities and that's unfair. They fought cocks, were not violent men, served as community workers and civil servants of both sides of the island. So I do not relate to any type of connection between your so-called cruelty to chickens. I'm confident that most indeginous sxm'ners don't either and therefore I was insulted. I present to you a different perspective you should think about. I understand however that people who talk about issues concerning sxm culture get uncomfortable and defensive when their position is challenged by a sxm'ner who is firm enough to say hey, I like this part of my culture just fine. And i'm insulted that you dubbed that as false and weak. Can you relate to what I explained? No you probably can't. So how are you blessed with the ability to determine what I felt was weak or false? You can't broad-stroke a person simply because you are of one mind-set and she is of the other. That is not the way a discussion works. You should instead try to "get" what the other person was saying. You dissapoint me in this regard. If you don't want the discussion to "go there" say so. Simply say JB, lets try focus on cock-fighting and not deviate. But you know what the problem is in THIS instance? Writers should be extremely careful how they use socially, culturally and racially sensitive subjects as examples. When you do that, for some people, yours truly included, I will take it out and point out that its down-right insulting and inappropriate to use such a reference. And I stand by that.
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